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The Outsiders and Domothungac


The 6 heroes of the edge, who once were left at a part in the Yonder text, have returned here with a new adventure to explore, as they have vanquished the problem of the Subeasts with the explosion of the whaleship and thus rest time to this period. 

These are the drawn characters, who are named after, more can be known of them in the text called Yonder. These are the heros of the Outside, as they have long since departed both time and space on a quest for what is not known. 

From left to right their names are Tristal, Mazer, Logan, Boan, Anasky and Glitch

It is true that three of the characters are myself, Mazer, Logan and Boan are all different personality aspects I have that currently hang out together with three others who are not myself.

These characters are important to the latter parts of the Yonder text and they will go on another journey today, where rather then fighting the Subeasts they have set out to discover the nature of the:

Domothungac

An entity which has been manipulating our behaviors from behind the scenes for a purpose unknown and these 6 heroes of the great unknown will have to find out what exactly this being is planning especially with consumerism and our purpose for existing.

It is unclear where this will go and as we begin Mazer says:

"I bet the Domothungac is amoung the worst things we could find at this hieght of the tower."

Mazer is refering to the Tower of Avondale, which each of our stories takes place on a different layer of this tower, which the first is Prosporo, the Second Lemuria and the last is here in the Outsiders story. This means they will be exploring the farthest reaches of my knowledge.

Anasky says:

"I have looked for so long in the tendrics for an answer to this question and yet, I have found none."

Tristal says:

" I suspect that this is going to be harder then we thought."

Glitch says:

"Perhaps we should consider looking at what kind of side effects consumption has in time?"

Logan said:

"This is wise, we should observe the nature of time as would be progression within consumption."

So they set out to find exactly what they needed, this being the map of time in relation to consumption and would find it easily as Anasky could locate that within the Tendric realm rather swiftly, as could Logan who is the author.

Mazer said:

"Nah bro, Logan's an empty shell, I'm the one in here and my best bud is Boan."

Mazer continued:

" I should explain how I'm in two places at once, with different hairstyles. It's cause at somepoint I wrote a spinoff in which I was amoung these characters and this story escalated really weridly so it makes sense because we 6 currently reside in the plot hole realm."

Anasky drew the map of Consumption in time, she drew it on a peice of paper Logan summoned using pen magic, which I must add is super overpowered because the author is always comparable to god in the story. Mazer prefers being dark as always, but Logan is my convenient shell for filling in gaps of anything.

Boan should be mentioned because he represents the divide and is opposed to Glitch who represents the speckle, these two characters ( self and not self ) represent the whole world at its current highest point. Anasky has access to the tendric realm, the realm of every possible thought considered by the author and is essentially omniscient. Tristal has powerful philosophical emotions at times.

Mazer is evidently nihilistic darkness, Logan is the author and together these 6 characters form the group headed to the edge of timespaces, who were sent unintentionally on this tragectory when the whaleship broke off the rest of the ship headed for Lemuria.

They past through time after this and blew up the real ship, killing the 9 original heros and sending everyone back to this point where Prosporo is never fallen, Lemuria is still taking place and they seek to know the edge of edges.

Below is the map of consumption:

The following image shows that consumption in excess or lack leads to extinction, but mediocre consumption leads to prefected unchanging stability in permanence. This implies that the world is solid and unredeemable and we are incased in it forever.

It implied this because while the unrecogn seems to call those three words similar, they are not in that tiny hairsplitting. This means that so long as we eat and so long as we don't the world is never redeemed or escaped and we are thus prisoner to consumption as part of the order of existence.

This may seem fine, but that same fact implies nothing can be done about any of our consumptions be them material, spritiual, mental or otherwise. They will never satisfy the longing of something being missing, which will forever create the illusion of suffering and the reality of that same thing.

Anasky says:

"I think Mazer was right, it appears the Domothungac is absolute permanence of existence as it is, meaning no real change is ever made in life."

Tristal said:

"This suggests that we have all their is already but we lack the ability to escape it, while still being oblivious of what we have and this continues on forever."

Logan said:

"It seems that our consequence of existing is that it is both entirely and eternally and this would mean while anything is possible we'll always be stuck in life."

Mazer said:

"This is why Hell is better, because we might aswell enjoy it."

Boan said:

"Is their an opposite to this statement?"

Speckle said:

"I doubt theirs an opposite at all."

Boan said:

"Couldn't we use impermanence with permanence in a similar method to wholephases to then uncover an additional memebrane outside this one?"

Logan said:

"Maybe, but we'd need to know what this equivalent is in meaning, as the meaning we understand it as is always unrecgoned and leading to new ends, but those ends in turn seem to have higher effects then we understand."

Mazer said:

"The meaningless, is without a doubt the end of this place as we know not what is without meaning as beings who use it to communicate."

Anasky said:

"If I chose the meaning for my life to be a redemption from pain, I would then spend a portion of time helping others and working to make their suffering better off. What effect this would have in time is likely that suffering would be forgotten only to be rediscovered later to worse effect."

"Hah, that means Pharath is going to make things worse by trying to fix me!" Said Mazer.

Logan said:

"Exactly, if we change anything in the story of life, it only echoes back as some other issue which is neither better or worse but still an issue that increases with time and changes with it too."

Tristal said:

"Then perhaps while were stuck here, we should try to control where the outcome goes?"

Anasky said:

"Right but remember what happened when we were destroying and fixing things last time? It just never ends and leaves only advice on what might happen, or won't."

Mazer said:

"Heh, what's wrong with problems? I mean we can fix them and they escalate but hey, that's life."

Tristal said:

" I don't know, the idea of always fixing things, things seeming to get better while also getting worse, seems like a weird idea to me. Especially since we can't yet know what the Domothungac is doing with this whole thing."

Mazer said:

"This reminds me alot of when we ran into the fire cult, because we were wondering if the watchers were controlling us then too and we never figured out what they were up to."

Tristal said:

"Maybe we just have to beleive we know what their doing, rather then try to figure out what their doing through logic, we could even guess what the watchers planned by trying to rather then being paranoid and worrying about whether its this or that."

Mazer said:

"Right, but how do you know it's true?"

Boan said:

"It's all different and its all equal, so I imagine its always the right answer."

Anasky said:

"Yes, precisely, the answer we give ourselves is the one we must then follow and that answer is then given to us by at the least ourselves, and all things have been shown to be accurate thus far, so it's likely this will lead somewhere."

Mazer chuckled and said:

"So what do all of you want the Domothungac to be plotting and making us progress towards obliviously, without first thinking of what it will do?"

They thought for a moment then they all had their own answer:
  • Mazer said: It will be a worse place then before but we can't then go back.
  • Tristal said: The emotions we create today, end up being a toxin tomorow.
  • Logan said: The written path we take will lead to and ending incomplete.
  • Boan said: If it's equal today it won't be fair tomorow cause that's fair.
  • Anasky said: The events which will follow will be beyond our knowing.
  • Glitch said: I think this will only lead to memory corruption again.
These were the keys to the idea they would eventually form, as in these days it was typical when undecided to link ideas into asunder, such that they become one and become agreed upon.
  • Our sorrowed path equivalent follow and led, unreturned, toxic and incomplete it shall be unfair and beyond us, in corruptions of memory again.
Mazer then said:

" So consumption and meaning will inevitably bring us to a sorrowed path followed and led, incomplete and unfair beyond our knowledge as we loose the memory again? Cool."

Logan said:

" I'm fine with that, but I imagine the reader is freaking out at this point because they don't understand what a posit is, or what doing too many rounds of shadow does to the mind."

Mazer laughed and said:

"Hey, Boan, could you do that thing where you equalize the posits on that specific statement?"

Boan said:

"Yes, I'll take both sides of the coin and render a perfected translation that won't scare the reader."

Consumption and meaning, will inevitably bring us to a sorrowed path followed and led, incomplete and unfair beyond our knowledge as we loose the memory again.

Consumption and meaning, will inevitably bring us to a pleaured path followed and led, complete and fair beyond our knowledge as we gain the memory again.

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Consumption and meaning, will inevitably bring us to a qualitative path followed and led, timely and just beyond our knowledge as we nostalge the memory again.

All of these are an accurate depiction of the same future which the Domothungac is leading us to and this is why it is so difficult to pinpoint what it will be then when we are yet there, the only thing we know is that it is a malevolent entity and that it has control unless we know what its doing.

So Anasky said:

" It's saying were going to run out of memory to hold all meaning and will be left without knowledge and thus never know all meaning and all tastes of life. This makes sense, our minds are matter and have a limited storage capacity." 

Logan says:

"I already experience this problem either by abuse or by actual data overload."

Mazer said:

"I like it, it makes things eternal and makes them like a never ending game of catch and release, but sometimes you get to eat the animal. Rarw."

Tristal said:

"Uh, dog demans and their hunting metaphors."

Glitch said:

"It's a good thing I'm a rat then eh?"

Tristal looked at him and said nothing, she wasn't sure if that was an attempt to hit on her. She said:

"We could always write down all we have, but then we might forget the meaning of a word. We could extend our brain size but evidently that would require a brain the size of atleast all things, then we would be lost inside it and still know nothing."

Mazer smiled and said:

" I do like knowing nothing, praise the Athagek!"

Logan said:

"This isn't actually that bad, it means we'd just have to deviate as people and take on different knowledges and beleive each other when we work together on something we only know 50% of at one time."

Mazer said:

"What a brave new world, one where no one knows everything and everyone is kind of stupid but still headed farther and then what will happen when the meaning is too vast even for that?"

Logan said:

"I'm not sure, let's do some math."

Anasky said:

"Hmm, if it takes two people in a thousand years to change a lightbulb, then after 3 more thousand years it's going to take atleast 5 people to change a lightbulb of that degree of reflective advancement." 

Mazer said:

" Right but it would likely be exponential, because ever person who adds another pile of knowledge increases the knowledge by an additional scale by insperation and intepretation, so for every additional person, you have to add yet another two maybe. So by the year 5000, the amount of people required to change our metaphorical lightbulb would be something like 20 people. I'm also bad at math so it might be something else."

Glitch said:

"Worse yet, because in the year 5000 the internet is atleast 5 times as big, it would mean that everytime you look out the window and see an add, the memories you had would be altered and thus you'd end up remembering the wrong kind of lightbulb or forgetting how to change it, so people would basically have to just be there at the right time, for anything to get done."

Boan says:

"Atleast it's still fair, in the sense that people would all be like this from over information consumption at levels beyond what is already the information baggage of 7 billion people atleast on Mazer's end. It wouldn't be fair for some though because everyone forgot how to fix their favorite thing. It would then be best to just forget about it until it comes back around."

Tristal said:

"Imagine the internet then and how hard it would be to find one specific object out of the billions of similarly named things other people invented, you'd basically have to go shopping with no expectations."

Logan said:

"Hey Mazer, remember when the planet only had 6 billion people on it and since then you checked again and found out it was 7 billion? Imagine how fast that shit goes up in the year 5000 it could potentially increase by a billion in a matter of weeks if people were in the mood."

Mazer said:

"Bro I know, when I looked it up in 2008 it was only 6.766 billion. today in 2019 it's 7.53 billion. It was 5.797 billion  when I was born in 1996. I'm twenty two, this means it took 22 years for the planet to gain 2 billion people." 

Anasky said:

"Luckily, humans are consuming extensively at this time and this will only decrease as we progress in time, because we won't have enough food for every day, but we don't need food everyday. If that doesn't change we might go extinct from over eating the planet then starving to death ( or turn into cannibals )" 

Mazer laughed and said:

"Soylent green isn't even a bad thing, it's just disturbing. it's exactly like eating the pig that ate the plants that ate the dead bugs that ate your ancestor, it's just more efficient and more imidiated."

Mazer continued:

" I honestly completely understand my sister when she was telling my mom that the world of 2019 is nothing like when my mom was growing up without the internet. The amount of people who use the internet alone and use it for any possible reason just shows how much information is already out there. Further it's already at such a large scale of information that sometimes you find out about stuff years after its a thing only because you weren't on the right website ever at the right time."

Anasky says:

" This whole issue is because humans want to know what life is about, but they also want to be "the one" who knows what's going on and so no one actually beleived anyone, they just cherry picked what they presumed was truth and made a new version of reality that the plaster all over the internet. Only for the cycle to repeat differently as someone else beleiving and interpreting the information differently."

Glitch said:

"It's so overfilled already it's likely they will eventually have to make seperate internets just to keep it organized enough not to find parrelel universes involving cats, when searching for hats. Only because five hundred people happened to post pictures of cats with hats and said hat on their feed. Which to the ai of the computer means it's hat related and since its so populace these days must show up next to hat sales by accident."

Tristal said:

" The best part of it though, is that while many people today beleive their being watched by the government through the internet, I can't even begin to imagine how you would go about sorting 7 billion users just to find out if they like you as a leader. Sure, it might have helped catch criminals in the 2000's but these days it's so overfilled I don't think anyone with big data is underwhelmed."

Boan said:

"It's a good and a bad thing, too bad we're all lost at sea and many people don't even realize theirs like fifteen thousand other opinions out there that are not their own. Infact Mazer, you should stop getting pissed off when no one listens. "

Mazer says:

"What do you mean?"

Boan says:

"It's due to kinds of people, which vary from silent, nice, debate and trolls. It's more likely that the people who read it said nothing because those who say the most are the trolls and debaters, while the nice person who thanks you won't do that with every single post they ever see. This lopsided effect distorts reality and makes it seem like everyone hates you on the internet, when if you talk to people outside the internet they usually do understand a bit if not lots of what you say. Unless they've secluded themselves on an island of the interwebs and are filled with one sliver of the full reality."

Anasky says:

" It's not even the case that it's impossible to grasp the entirety of what is on there in it's simplest compositions, this is literally what Mazer did."

Mazer laughs and says:

" Yeah, I didn't read the entire internet, but I did learn the basic idea behind all the divergent theories which I then categorise as Magic and Science. It's mostly the hairsplitting words that confuse people, when the basics of both sides of the God debate is based of totally seperate realities portions."

Logan adds:

"This is getting to be quite long of a discussion, but I want to add that Magic is just manipulating chance through some kind of broad and diverse action, aswell as meditation for more serious thought on life nature. While Science is infact nothing like it, where it uses not chances but prediction and models to accurately measure what matter does so it can build technology, while using math."

Mazer says:

"To finish this off, I just thought of a final question. What if the Domothungac's plan isn't done at divergent memory lost people stuck in seperate universes, what if it goes even farther then this. Alas as writer, I feel it is time to end this discussion as it is long and has alot of ideas within. I'll conclude the part with my final thoughts in Bold."

So we asked what the world would look like when the Domothungacs plan increased and realized it would lead to people lost in a cyclone of changing information, overpopulation and varied levels of food. I could add that this means my time of life is but a calm before the storm that may even start roaring as I die in hopefully old age.

These things may not even be then end of this Malevolent entities goals, which while resolvable in some manner, likely through soylent green, accessible internet pathways and quick contact with people in the know. As well as knowing what is the same and what is not the same kind of feild. The ideas herein show that timespace is increasing exponentially and will likely change the way life is after a certain amount of time has passed.

I would add here that their is little we can do, beyond extend our territories of space into a draining sea, the ground and air as we increase in population, which will further make it more difficult to leave the solar system. This is amoung my predictions that we are not flying in rockets to the next star like in my story of Lemuria, but rather we're walking there, by building homeworlds inside asteroids and even the planet that we slowly shift in place by moving parts from one end to the other. While also taking advantage of gravity to control the direction of fall in space.

These we will need to do, because by the time we can get even to jupiter, the planet will likely be so populated that this story people will be an epic of proportions never imagines when they first even landed on the moon ( if they did the way they claim. )

So we leave this here, with the wondering and lingering question of if the thing we shall term here the Memopulate to be the end of our troubles at all. As I suspect in my own predictions above that it is not and likely continues on forever, while still become likely more interesting as it goes. 

As a place of less recollection and more information, is alot like a dream in sleep.

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